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Bodybuilding takes enormous discipline and determination. Participating in bodybuilding contests is a step-up from there, and takes a lot of show-prep. It's understandable that winning is important and contestants try to get an edge over the competition. Therefore, when all-natural bodybuilding became a new competition, my guest Paul Erickson decided to follow this to the letter of the law. He became a vegan at 58, started studying how to train and eat with purpose, and now, at 68 is winning competitions knowing that he does not inject or put anything in his body not allowed under the most stringent of regulations.